How did the film do?
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“Phoonk 2” collected Rs.5.12 Crores all India for the first 3 days excluding the Tamil and Telugu versions and “Rann” collected only around 2.6 Crores for the same time.
Considering that “Phoonk 2” is made in a budget of a fraction of “Rann” and its publicity budget is ½ of “Rann”, it is a relative super hit.
The interesting point is to debate on what it exactly means when someone asks “how did the film do?”.
A film can be seen by 100 people and 90 of them might have liked it. Another film might be seen by 1000 people and 990 of them might not have liked it. But the 1000 people’s tickets money will show that the 2nd film is a much bigger hit. That’s rightfully so if you take only the commercials into consideration. Similarly if a film is made in 4 Crores and it collects 6 Crores it’s a hit but if the same is made in 8 Crores it’s a flop.
A film’s success ratio is measured either by the cost versus recovery pattern or what it was expected to collect by whom or what did the so-called critics say or what did each individual who saw the film feel about it?
To know what each individual felt about a film is an impossible task as it’s physically not possible to meet and interact with each of them. So you have to make do with the few you get to interact with. For example even on this blog you can see extremely varied reactions and comments made on the same film.
As per expectations of a particular person if the person expects the film to collect Rs.1000- and it collects only Rs.500- it’s a flop but if the person expects it to collect only Rs.500- and it collects Rs.1000-, then it’s a hit. This also cannot be an exact science as the expectations on a said film are arrived upon due to a variety of reasons. For instance “Darr” is a super hit for Shahrukh Khan, but for Sunny Deol it’s a super flop as it has finished off his stardom in comparison to Shahrukh. People wanting to see a film is a function of the ad campaign which will give them an idea of the subject matter, maybe a point of interest and maybe a star quotient etc and if enough people are excited because of that they will go to see the film thereby resulting in it’s collections.
The days when mouth publicity used to make a film pick up are extremely rare because the window of exhibition has become lesser and lesser due to the multiplex culture.
Films used to run for silver jubilees, than 100 days, than 50 days and now finally the biggest of hits in Hindi are reduced to 2 to 3 weeks and most only for the weekend.
This does not really tell the quality but it only reflects the distribution system which operates on the principle to create as much hype as possible for the release weekend and draw out the revenue as fast as one can. This again comes from the marketing psychology of consumer products. Compared to the emotional way of a filmmaker feeling happy in the past that there are crowds not getting tickets for his film, the distribution system now works on the principle of anyone who wants to see the film should get a ticket.
The Coke’s marketing principle is that if a consumer feels like having a Coke it should be within his arms reach, in his fridge or in a store next to his house or wherever his eyes turn to. Pretty much this is what film marketing and distribution is moving towards and this is primarily because like I said a film is being treated as a consumer product.
A film might be an art form for the maker and possibly for some viewers but overall what makes the film get made and released in theatres is connected very much to a consumer product manufacturing process.
You will be surprised to know that I did not make any money on “Rangeela” but I made a lot of money in “Daud”. That’s because in the trading practices back then in 1995 the distribution system was so disorganized that I never got my due money for “Rangeela”. But since at the grass roots the distributors knew how much money “Rangeela” really made they bought “Daud” for very high prices because of which I made money but since the film didn’t work for the prices, they lost money. So in terms of commercials “Rangeela” was a flop for me and “Daud” was a hit.
“Satya” a lot of people think is a hit but the truth is that “Jungle” collected 3 times more money than “Satya”.
That’s because “Jungle” released in more theatres than “Satya” and it had a much bigger opening across the country whereas “Satya” had a much smaller release and did well only in places like Mumbai, Nizam and Delhi city. Even in Nizam “Satya” did 1.25 Crores and “Jungle” did 1.75 Crores. Apart from this in many other places “Satya” was taken off in the 2nd or 3rd say due to lack of audience.
So is “Jungle” a better film than “Satya” on this yardstick? Not necessarily because many of the people who saw “Jungle” might not have liked it and most who have seen “Satya” might have liked it. Years later everyone I meet say that “Satya” is my best work but the year “Satya” released a far bigger hit, probably 10 times more in terms of collections was a Salman Khan film called “Bandhan” directed by K.Murali Mohan Rao which I doubt even Salman Khan will remember. But “Satya” was a super hit for me in terms of my credibility as a filmmaker in concerned circles.
Now coming to a individual’s perception a girl I know saw “Nishabd” one year after it was released on her laptop and she thinks it’s my best work.
A guy in a certain group told me that “Sarkar” is a masterpiece and another guy in the same group told me that it’s an apology of a film and an insult to Godfather.
Coming to critics, Khalid Mohammed wrote in Times of India review that “Raat” is an unintended comedy and for my first film “Shiva” he wrote that he hung his head in shame as he walked out. Deepa Gehlot ripped apart “Satya” and “Company” got maximum 2½ to 3 stars from most reviews. My second film after “Shiva” the supposedly cult classic “Kshana Kshanam’s” review was that it proved me to be a one film wonder.
Anyway the bottom line is that due to all the above reasons if you keep the critics, individuals opinions and trading practices aside the only thing that matters at the end of the day is that for you to make a film such as what you are wanting to make and for the considerations of various concerned in the project it should atleast make back what was spent on it. Beyond this you should take everything else with a pinch of salt.
Also no film ever loses money as in literally the way people think. One often hears that 90% of the films lose money in the industry, but what does this really mean? What happens is that the money never gets lost but it just exchanges hands. When someone says that 20 Crores has been wasted on a such and such film what does it really mean? It means that those 20 Crores went into the hands of some technicians, equipment suppliers, actors and various other people who have their livelihoods and that of their family’s dependent upon that film for that particular time. So the money didn’t vaporize but it just went into their pockets. What flopped is the vision of the guy who put 20 Crores with the intention of making a profit on it. So in this case he is a flop but the guys who got in the money into their pockets are super hits. So in a massively over-budget film if some 300 people are involved the producer might loose money, the director and actor their credibility but 297 of the 300 will make money. Anyway the economic upturns and downturns of how the industry functions is a little too complex to make you understand in just an article but I hope I gave a birds eye view of it.
I can answer a question if I personally liked a particular film or not, but since I don’t know the financials, the expectations and the view points and the considerations of the various people involved with the said film, I can never ever really answer the question, “How did the film do?”
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April 28th, 2010 at 2:37 AM
the talent doesn’t lose money. but talent has to take the blame ..
April 27th, 2010 at 5:08 PM
Good Morning sir,
if, All Financial activities between two human beings are, well know that based on properties and sureties, once please try to think if, the financial activities between two human beings are will be based on trust and belief think about it my friends, then give me an opportunity.
If a person character was Talent give a chance to him/her.
If a person character was cleaver then give a task to him/her.
If a person character was Obedient then trust him/her.
If a person character was Ordinary then encourage him/her.
Finally,
If a person character was a fool then Help to him/her.
know i feel that i am fool why because from last five years i am doiung this requestes to many people but i was fail to convince them
A person who already prove their talent it is not great to celebrate that success was not great, if a person who trying to prove them self, to prove their talent it is great that to give opportunity to those to prove them self will be real great, celebration always like as boost to such people who already proved their self. but, giving opportunity to those people who are trying to prove them self it is like to give oxygen for them,so you may please thing about my obligation.
About me I am Venkatakishore was finished my P.G in Mass communications . mainly trained in script writing and advertising designing, After successes completion my P.G my professor asked to me a producer was living in his opposite flat. he was ready to produce a film but he was waiting for good story you may try to prepare a story I will introduce you to him, so that I was written a script and went to that producer.
My script was mainly based on element of suicides. Present days human are tiring to close there life’s force to suicides with small causes.
my own experience was my friend Sowmya also a mass media student her life goal was work as reporter for BBC news channel. she and some other my friends are attended interviews also many of that team gets job in BBC channel she feels very shy and hang her self when her dead body was in home we get a post job conformation letter from BBC channel. if she waits another 2 hours her life was in that way what she wanted.
A B.Tech young lady force to suicide, because of she feels that the job what she doing was not sour table to her education. A boy force to suicide because of his mother afraid against him, a young lady force to suicide because of her father opposes to buy a computer. Every day we are seeing many items based on suicides sir, but I feel that human are stronger than God.
my script had only two characters
1.A Software Engineer and
2. Veedhataa( Lord Brahma)
Just 2 Characters 30 production days 40 lake budget two language versions (Telugu & Hindi) please support me sir and full details of script and other details……sir kindly log on to
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April 25th, 2010 at 3:07 PM
you are atheist but yo made movies on god- govinda govinda.
you are a smart person you made movies like satya, company.
you never believed in ghost but why you make movies on ghosts.
you never believed in god , without believing in some thing, how can one can made a movie with interest.
I suppose if one made movie on the subject which he never believed it should be a 1.anticlimax
2.or he just criticizes sarcastically the subject at climax.
but u never done both the things.
likewise,ur fav movie is god father, u like mani ratnam nayakan and u did sarkar…. all the movies are about altruism, charity , helping the poor and labor. but you said u never liked altruism, what makes u feel that movies are good or you liked them.
how can u like godfather without believing in altruism.
so do u like the directional capabilities, photography, music,etc on them………..if answer is yes.
u can like the movie which is based on the subject you never liked, if the director said it effectively or in the way u like
i don’t need answer just justify , i m just 21
or
at least say me the way i can find the answer….
April 23rd, 2010 at 6:43 PM
@Prashh
I am good.. how about your freinds movie progress.. i was bit busy ….thats y i couldn’t contact you…
April 23rd, 2010 at 6:17 PM
success should NOT be measured based up on the amount ofmoney it extracted from audience..
For example..MNIK.having sharukh khan as a biggest star and a massive crowd puller..apparently have a reach in 35 countries round the world..so if his movie will be screened with some 2500 prints.. and 30 million people will watch it in the weekend..and extracts huge money over 1 week ..but financially or movie quality wise its flop
a movie like A WEDNESDAY having no star value ..and old actor nasiruddhin shah is only the selling factor.. and obviously less reach compared to sharukh khan and karan johar and not a crowd puller..so it collects less money compared to MNIK.. eventhough with mouth talk movie will be screened for 1 month but still collections cant reach as MNIK..
in this case A WEDNESDAY is a big hit though it extracted less money from audience.. when compared to MNIK..
cheers